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    June 05, 2020

    Ace Attorney [oc] another godot piece from last year

    [oc] another godot piece from last year

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 12:53 PM PDT

    Who is your favorite prosecutor? I personally like Godot so much that we even tried to recreate him though cosplay [IG: Mistvein]

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 12:58 AM PDT

    I have a project in my Spanish class where I had to make a town so I added a courthouse with two of my favorite lawyers

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 09:14 PM PDT

    What's your favorite and least favorite quote from the games?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 09:51 PM PDT

    I thought it would be fun to see everyone's side-by-side.

    My fave: "Let us say the figurative Sir William will be dropping his panties before lunchtime."

    My least fave: The whole conversation with Larry when you present him Pearl's profile. Eugh.

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    About Delicia Scones

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 09:45 PM PDT

    Hi all,

    In Ace Attorney Investigations 2, there is this character named Delicia Scones.

    Is there any background on the creation of this character?

    As I think based on her appearance, she seems to be from Professor Layton world, not to mention she is from England.

    What do you think?

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    Maya Fey - Turnabout Sisters' (Piano)

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 01:44 PM PDT

    Ace Attorney -Pursuit- [SONG ANALYSIS]

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 08:14 PM PDT

    This is from the comment section of Gyakuten Kenji 2's Objection theme. The fact that no person posted in the comment section twice is amazing

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 09:09 AM PDT

    Do you need to play Investigations to play Investigations 2?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 10:45 PM PDT

    I played Investigations and Investigations 2 a long time ago. What I do remember is that Investigations 2 is my second favorite game in the entire series (behind T&T) but the original Investigations was super weak.

    I'm recommending the Investigations games to my friend (he's played up to Dual Destinies), but I don't know if he should start at Investigations or Investigations 2.

    Obviously Kay's backstory is shown in Investigations, but do you think it's necessary?

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    My review of the original trilogy. (spoilers btw.)

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 10:28 AM PDT

    I have finally had the time to play the remaining games of the trilogy. I had planned on writing a review here to share my thoughts but never took the opportunity. Since I was reminded it was my cake day by the lovely members of this subreddit, I have decided to give it a thorough review today. (TL;DR; maybe at the bottom.)

    Commenting on the Cast

    The first thing that I had to sit down to think about was how interconnected the cast is. Let's sit down and think for a moment. Initially there is Manfred von Karma and Gregory Edgeworth, who is promptly murdered by von Karma with in a famously unsolved case, where Misty Fey gets involved. Larry, Phoenix and Miles are friends at this point (the first game does tell this iirc). Marvin Grossberg leaks this information to Redd White, causing her to disappear for 15+ years. Her eldest daughter Mia Fey studies law, working under Grossberg where he meets Diego Armando in her first trial. The game clearly tells you they had some sort of romantic bonding.

    They examine our beloved psychopath (Dahlia Hawthorne), where Armando gets poisoned leading to a coma. Mia Fey, faced with another tragedy pursues her in another court battle, where our favorite (soon to be law student) literature student is the main suspect. This is where we meet another confusing plot line where Phoenix dates Dahlia's twin sister Iris. Dahlia is prosecuted for her crimes. Phoenix gives up literature after her love of "Dahlia" (emphasis on quotes).

    I have never seen such an interconnected story line in my life. It is so interconnected that it took me a night to figure our who is who after finishing the last case. Overall, the characters to tick together. Perhaps this is the reason.

    I am going waaay against the grain here: I have a couple of gripes with Maya Fey and how immature she is. Maybe this was a way of keeping people from shipping him and Phoenix by the authors, but it didn't work did it. Maybe there is some charm I am missing here and there. She seems like a chore to Phoenix from what I read between the lines of the game. Or maybe I am over analyzing a children's game.

    Difficulty

    I am not afraid to admit I used walkthroughs and guides to finish the game. It's a puzzle game, I have limited time, sometimes the hassle of finishing the game the legit way detracts from the experience. The bumpy difficulty of the game (for me) boils down to the following:

    • The way each case treats evidence is different. Sometimes evidence is circumstantial in one, not in another.
    • I am one step ahead of the game logic, loosing points with the judge for no reason.
    • You would have to have played the game at least once to know that (especially the last case)
    • I am a dumb ass that can't read.
    • I haven't played a case consecutively and forgot important plot details.

    Sometimes, the investigation segments are hard to finish, because you have to trigger certain events with certain people. The game does not allow you to investigate in a non-linear fashion. At least in the first game Gumshoe is there to tell you "this area is off limits pal" if there are things they want to reveal linearly.

    Comments on the art style

    The art style is acceptable in the PC version. Despite being faithful to them, it's not as good as the original GBA/DS. It gets the job done. The game does have that Japanese aura no matter how much they try to hide it. The music is the thing that makes these types of games unique and it delivers. Throw the tunes into a room full of people, there will be that one person that shouts "Objection!" from the top of their lungs.

    Case by case review

    1. The First Turnabout: Good tutorial case. Iconic.
    2. Turnabout Sisters: Introduces the main plot line successfully. It is a bit heavy to kill the chief the second case in, but they made good use of it in the last game.
    3. Turnabout Samurai: I think this is my favorite filler case in the game. This is the point were you unlock Edgeworth as an ally over a rival.
    4. Turnabout Goodbyes: The most well written case in the game. One of the cases that really throws a wrench in your thought process, generally reveals why Edgeworth is the emotional wreck he is. I can't blame him, I myself would become the same emotional wreck given his circumstances. Losing your father, seeing is supposed killer get off the hook, being mentored by his rival who most likely trash talked Gregory given all chances....
    5. Rise from the Ashes: The plot in this case is as thick as Turnabout Goodbye's tying more loose ends of our prosecutor in red (despite how some consider it non-canon). Throughout this case I feel sorrow for the Skye sisters. I think Ema wasn't the only one that deserved more cases. Of course Ema was given more attention to in later games, but Lana is never heard from again. The Maggey Byrde picture in Gumshoe's locker is funny though. This may be my favorite case.
    6. The Lost Turnabout: Introduces Maggey Byrde and Gumhoe's crush on her. It's an OK tutorial case.
    7. Reunion and Turnabout: The story is tragic, but the psychopathy of Ms. Miney replacing her passed sister is truly disturbing.
    8. Turnabout Big Top: I didn't like this filler case as much as the others. (Trilo explodes in the distance)
    9. Farewell My Turnabout: Double the filler case? Well, this time it isn't so much of a filler is it. They really upped the ante with this case. This case was a bit confusing because it is never clear who the true culprit is until the very end. I didn't see the true ending until I used a guide. I still don't understand how the calling card clear suspicions of the contract killer, but legal accuracy isn't why we play this game is it?
    10. Turnabout Memories: It's Trial an Tribulations. This game is all about Mia Fey. It's no wonder we are given her second case. Marvin's hemorrhoids aren't funny the third time though.
    11. The Stolen Turnabout: Whilst Ron DeLite is somewhat despicable, but he isn't the one behind most of the heists, the real delusional person Luke Atmey is a confusing character at best. The investigation segments are fun.
    12. Recipe for Turnabout: Yay Maggey is back. Yet another murder trial. How a court accepts a fake attorney is dumb, but hey it's just a story right. Bluffing out a confession out of Furio is a bit week. This case is about Gumshoe and Maggey. Too bad they never canonically ticked. Violetta's insecurity over relationships is a state in life you never want to end up in.
    13. Turnabout Beginnings: Mia's actual first case, also where we are hinted at who Godot really is. Drawing the parallels between Godot and Diego only requires you to peek at them. Dahlia does her things and we get other people's lives ruined. Both end up dead, killed by her own step sister, and his own hands. This case is traumatic for both counsels.
    14. Bridge to the Turnabout: This case is overall sad. Dying in order to protect you own daughter is very metal. Killing a loved one's mother (literally) for their sister's protection (from their channeled cousin) is very metal. The case itself is very hard (being the last case of the game) but I don't think I could have beat this one without a guide. Diego is a man of his word, but he did not deserve prison, not after his tragedies. Iris (Fey?) is probably undeserving of prison too. Learning who you dated for 6 odd months was someone else from who you thought was is an interesting plot point too. I wish they had explored this characters in the later games, but it seems they were executed for their crimes. Clearly the game story did allow for Iris and Phoenix to continue their relationship. It is unfortunate these two characters are left to rot away in jail.

    Overall

    The trilogy is 7/10. Although the I don't see myself holding the sequels quite as high as the first game, they were generally enjoyable. It is one of those games I can recommend to close friends. Too bad not many people know this game where I live. Sorry for the rushed ending, I have already spent many hours on this review. I wish to discuss more in the comments below.

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    I got a friend to do some 3d printing

    Posted: 05 Jun 2020 12:23 AM PDT

    I played Godot's theme on piano :)

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 10:13 AM PDT

    About 3-3's timeline of events

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 11:37 AM PDT

    so i'm replaying the trilogy and i just got to recipe for turnabout's first investigation, and something is really bothering me this time around for some reason. of course not counting all the phony xin eohp/furio tigre predicament stuff which is intentionally unbelievably ridiculous. basically the murder happens on december 3rd, then the first trial is held the day after and maggey is found guilty, shortly after that the article about this fiasco is out on the magazine. Gumshoe brings it to you (angry asf like it just happened) on january 6th, which is more than a month later. then you meet maggey, who for all that time has been in solitary confinement and hasn't even figured out that she has been tricked until you waltzed in the detention center. you go over at Tres Bien to investigate and there's still the crime scene more or less intact, still with police tape, there's still clues to be found like the sports paper........ it's just really awkward, especially considering everything in the in-game universe seems to advance really fast (trials being held immediately the day after arresting a suspect, the whole 3 day limit, people getting over the trauma of witnessing a murder amazingly quick) am I just forgetting something here? why did it have to take place a month later and not like, say, a week or couple days later?

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    Spoiler spirit of justice

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 10:17 AM PDT

    So I know Ga'ran and Atishon are the culprit and rayfa 'a mother is the old lady in disguise. Did I spoil everything interesting for myself?is case 5 going to be boring now?

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    Ace Attorney has become a frustrating mess

    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 02:13 PM PDT

    So first Im gonna give a bit of context, earlier during quarantine Nintendo started a sale on a lot of games on the Switch, one of which includes the Ace Attorney Phoenix Wright saga which I bough as I already heard a lot about it and was quite interested in it.

    So after a quick download I started playing it and I absolitely loved it! From the funny characters to the over the top performances I was into it. I then played through the entire first base game, never looking anything up or getting stuck really hard, I was just glued to this game. But then the turning point came, Rise from the Ashes. I know this is quite controversial as Ive already seen a lot of people call it their favorite trial, thats why I wanna preface, this is just how I feel and I wanna voice why, if you like or love it thats great and that makes me happy for you, its just really not for me. Rise from the Ashes started a change in writing that I really dont enjoy, the characters all became just flat tropes that were portrayed extremely annoying, just as an example Marshall with his neverending cowboy trope and I LOVE the wild west, but his constant blabbering in unhinged text that basically said nothing except 'har har I cowboi' made me loathe him >! tho he got a lot better after the reveal about his brother !<. Though hes just one of the offenders. Another problem I have were the trials, which before where my absolute favorite part. The thing is Ace Attorney never was really realistic in its portrayal of trials just to mention that all trials have to be finished within 3 days, the defendant basically being guilty until proven otherwise and how the prosecution is so often called out for faking or hiding evidence and never being penalized or thrown out, etc. But since Rise from the Ashes the trials just went right into the dumpster, everyone just makes nonsense accusations that just have to be accepted, getting the right evidence to the right statement was sometimes a struggle before too but by now its just horrible, but the worst offender for me is the 'story moments' where you could already point out problems but instead cant act correctly because Phoenix needs to be stumped at that point according to the story until NPC (Placeholder) tells him to think a bit harder and only then you can be right. This already happened in the first few trials but it was rare, by now ever since Rise from the Ashes theres at least 2-3 per trial (to be fair Im currently on trial 2 of the second game but theres already been 2 of these moments). Another thing are the Minigames introduced in RftA, they are... fine. Theyre the equivalent of having a substitute teacher handing out mandalas instead of class, its not fun, its not interesting, its there and its fine. If I should describe Ace Attorney after RftA in one word then it would be Annoying, cause thats what it is to me. I miss feeling smart and getting a rush during the trials when I correctly figured something out or caught a lie, for that now I can watch uninteresting characters which I do not care for do that. To be fair Im only at the second trial of the second game and hopefully it gets better but already just playing through these 3 trials made me feel so frustrated, cause I know it could be great, because it was and I really hope it gets better...

    Thanks for reading through all this if youre still here nerds.

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